Fuel Injection Testing

I was wondering if anyone knows if RGM is doing any testing for the upcoming change to Fuel Injection??? With RGM doing their own motors for the balance of the year, I didn't know if there would be any sharing of information with the Penske group on this or not.

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Permalink Reply by RG7FAN on October 13, 2011 at 4:05pm
I would say no way are they doing any testing.
Permalink Reply by Dave-O on October 13, 2011 at 4:07pm
hopefully this is where support from Dodge comes into play, if it still exists.
Permalink Reply by Kevin Sweeney on October 13, 2011 at 5:07pm
Testing=Money and RGM has better things to spend it on, so I'd say no. IMO
Permalink Reply by GTX - HEMI on October 13, 2011 at 6:42pm
Test What ?........................NA$CAR has put this in box and no one will be able to touch it. Just bolt the S**T on and go.

Some fuel savings, better T-response and more $$$$$$$................what a joke. Brian should kick back some $$$ to the teams to deal with the change over.

Just like the POS in office, all this spending in a time when sponsor dollars are at a premium and fading it will be BRIAN'S undoing........and for all of you political cats get a life.
Permalink Reply by Michael Martinez on October 13, 2011 at 7:42pm
OOOOOOOOooooooooooOOOOOOOOOO...............Is there an "H" in there somewhere? Any way politics, NAZICAR hey here ya go gang I gave you NAZICAR now I give you FOOL injection.....I'm kinda blah lately on the CUP thing but over all the FOOL INJECTION will be nothing to get all bent about till the word "traction control" gets involved. The sport is hurting as hurting can be, what part this new twist will give it is just another brass nail. "How can the big teams cheat?????"
Permalink Reply by GTX - HEMI on October 14, 2011 at 11:12am
Hey.....Michael "Traction Control" HMS has been using it for over a year. The sensor is so small you would be hard pressed to find it on the car. Yes there has been some discussion on this site about this as well as FI. My source tells me that someone can make adjustments to the box and leave no prints. My source also has been invloved with this system and other systems for quite some time. In fact he has been the go to guy in the R & D to make this application work for most other bodys of racing.
Permalink Reply by WJM on October 15, 2011 at 2:28am
Although this type of FI system is antiquated by current standards there are still some 200 parameters and unlocked or easily hacked back doors that can be manipulated/overwritten without much effort. When NASCAR goes with FI full time the disparity between the haves and have nots will be embarrassing.
Permalink Reply by Rob Ayers on October 14, 2011 at 7:41am
From the quotes coming from testing, MWR has made comments about "learning more" every time they run. Sounds to me like there is going to be a learning curve on getting the engines tweaked to get the most out of them. I am hopeful that there is some kind of agreement with Dodge that info learned by Penske will be shared with RGM to try and keep him "up to speed".
IMHO you can't go out there and run a new style engine and not have the knowledge on tweaking it for max HP.
Permalink Reply by Vick on October 14, 2011 at 11:55am
Anyone who is an engine tuner in 2012 will know what the deal is with the fuel injected motors & these tests are nothing more than to concrete data for the 2012 RULEBOOK ( available to all teams )

So whomever RG gets his motors from in 2012 , I seriously doubt the fuel injection will even be an issue.
Permalink Reply by Christopher Lutz on October 14, 2011 at 9:11am
Personally, I hardly care about Nascar anymore - can't tell you the last time I watched a race.

Though - this fuel injection stuff is long overdue - as consumers, this is a big plus. Since every motor in our cars is fuel injected...I'd like the manufacturers to focus more on direct injection and FI in general. Maybe it will help bring better motors to the public.
Permalink Reply by Mike Kenyon on October 14, 2011 at 12:30pm
I believe there is a basic misuderstanding,they are NOT getting NEW engines.They are just changing the way fuel/air mixture is go into existing engines. This is nothing more than another expense for team owners.A Nascar 'branding' thing.
This fuel injection system is from the 80's, it's not a modernization. If you have a newer car in your driveway with cylinder management or is ULEV-2
, it's light years ahead of the system Nascar is mandating.
Permalink Reply by Ken on October 14, 2011 at 4:01pm
True dat.

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