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What is better for you? Old CART format or Nascar template format?
Some of you might remember the CART format...multiple chassis, tires, oils, etc.
Wondering which format the brain trust likes better - the options or Nascar format?
I found it more *technically* interesting to compare tires, reynard vs. lola chassis etc...but, the format essentially died.
One notably difference - it seems like the CART made more money available to the teams via unique sponsors vs. having an "official something of Nascar" that all teams had to use (and presumably buy). That seems to only enrich Nascar.
My personal, though admittedly ignorant, opinion is that Nascar should switch to something like this AND move to an NFL like distribution of monies to the teams. For those that don't know, the NFL negotiates the TV contract, then EVENLY divides some portion of the revenue to each team. No other sport does this.....and, I think combined with free agency has really helped the competition year to year. (you might not like free agency....I get that....but, at least most teams have a fighting chance at the playoffs each year)
In the current Nascar format, the difference between the "haves" and the "have-nots" is enormous. They recognize this and tried to limit owners to 4 teams...but, that was easily circumvented with "alliances".
Since we have 2 days before qualifying, thought I'd toss out the "over beers" question of the day.
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Permalink Reply by Keith on
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CART = FAIL. Looks like their formula worked real well.
You have different chassis, oil, engines now so I don't see your point there.
Without an "approved" parts list teams will use things that in the end may not be safe.
Tires will always have to be controlled by the sanctioning body otherwise a big can-o-worms.
In every sport as in real life there will always be the "haves" and "have nots" You can't legislate that.
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Permalink Reply by WJM on
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CART = FAIL. Looks like their formula worked real well.
Formula had nothing to do with it. Ah, never mind. Don't get me started.
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Permalink Reply by Mike Kenyon on
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Nascar does have 'tv' money for the teams,You'd have to ask the Devil (Brian France) how it distributed.
Honestly,I believe in a single tire manufacture theory for any series (key word series) Take World Superbike as an example,single tire manufacture, common weight rule,ect.Simply the most exciting racing in the world currently,IMO
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Permalink Reply by Christopher Lutz on
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Thanks for the replies:
The CART format did fail - though, if you look at the direction "Indycar" is going now....it's headed right back to CART roots. The series has a combination of road and ovals, they are introducing a turbo, etc.
RE: Spec series - That might be ok and generate exciting racing; however, Nascar is in a bit of "never-never land". Not really spec, not really competitive packages.
According to one of the links posted here - Nascar brought the drivers together to find out what kind of "big" changes they want to make. Viewership is down for nearly every race and...speaking as someone who used to watch each and every week - it's no longer that exciting.
Also, as a consumer/fan - I don't think we get much out of the format either. The old "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" rule is long gone and I can't imagine what kind of Nascar development actually makes it into production cars - most probably "none".
I'm admittedly ignorant on the tubular frames - those might be different - though with the tight specs I doubt very much....the skins are identical templates with different stickers. Not exactly the same thing as an entirely different chassis.
Not sure I understand the Tire comment. Why do you have to legislate? Introducing competition benefits "us" (fans/consumers) because it forces the manufacturers into R&D to "be the best". I personally like the idea of introducing a new strategy play of hard compound tires that last longer to avoid longer pits.
RE: Haves and "have nots" - I think you took my point to the extreme. Think NFL - when was the last time the same team won the superbowl 2x in row? It's been a long time. Each year, many, many teams have a shot. Heck, even the big baseball dynasties (Yankees/Braves) are starting to fall to teams with much lower payroll (CA Angels won the series a few years back)
Now think Nascar....Hendrick has (and continues to) dominate.
I'm the first to admit Penske is running well this year and Harvick is on a tear...but, it's early.
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My comment on tires stands. You would need to come to North Bend and spend a day drink'n beer listening to all my theories on this aspect of your question.
Motorcycle and sport car tire development trickles down to consumers. Not stock car tires.
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