Jan 16th, 2014 Dakar Rally Stage 11 Race Info & Discussion

Join in and discuss all the action from Stage 11 of the 2014 Dakar Rally. Robby Gordon recorded a 20th place finish in stage 10, and is still looking to capture his first stage win of the rally. Robby Gordon will begin stage 11 at 8:15am/et

 

2014 Stage 10 Photos


STAGE 11 TRACKING


STAGE 11: ANTOFAGASTA > EL SALVADOR

Connection 144km | Special Stage 605km | Total 749km

 

COURSE OVERVIEW

In addition to the distance, here the competitors will be put to the test by all the difficulties offered by the Atacama Desert… and will have to display all the qualities required for off-road races. After the mine tracks and the many rivers to cross, the competitors will have to distinguish themselves in the heart of the Dunes of Copiapo: the fastest motorcyclists are expected to spend seven hours behind the wheel. Needless to say that on this decisive day there will be no shortage of opportunities for competitors to make a winning comeback in the race. This will be the key stage of the 2014 edition.

The GREEN section of the route is the connection , the RED is the Special Section of the stage.

 

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kenyon on January 16, 2014 at 3:51pm

there are lot's of teams still on course

Permalink Reply by blake keithley on January 16, 2014 at 3:52pm

So you can't bring you own fuel? South American gas while better than French gas is still poor, SA ethanol is hydrous whilie American ethanol is anhydrous. If you run E85 then the gas issue goes away since its mostly hooch.what else goes away is vapor lock and overheating. Petrobras sells decent blended fuels.

What increases is fuel flow and total required. However Corvette Racing has done a lot of work with E85 and the LS7.

Permalink Reply by Slanted66 on January 16, 2014 at 3:55pm

I wonder if fuel mileage/range would be an issue with ethanol

Permalink Reply by blake keithley on January 16, 2014 at 4:15pm

RHR would be able to relay ETOH mileage and what they did to improve it. Need to sign Petrobras as a sponsor but there is that whole Brasil vs Argentina issue there.

Permalink Reply by Buzzzz on January 16, 2014 at 3:58pm

Yes that is exactly right.
You would need to bring a lot of fuel, transporting it unless you use a tanker truck would be a huge risk.

Permalink Reply by Slanted66 on January 16, 2014 at 4:01pm

How much fuel can the cars carry while racing?

Permalink Reply by Drone637 on January 16, 2014 at 4:12pm

As much as they want, they just need to be able to clear 880km. Section 31P5 of the rules:

3) All Vehicles must have a minimum range of 800 km, with the exception of 100% electric Vehicles. Each Competitor is responsible for calculating their fuel range. In no case may Competitors make any claims against the Organisers if their Vehicle fails to cover the minimum distance of 800 km, regardless of the nature of the terrain.

For safety reasons, a 10% margin is indispensable, i.e. a range of 880 km.

You can require AVGas for petrol powered vehicles but you need to ask for it ahead of time. Fuel information for the rally can be found at http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2014/us/looking-for-sponsors.html

Permalink Reply by blake keithley on January 16, 2014 at 4:34pm

Avgas has low RVP because boiling points decrease with altitude. It has a lot lower RVP. E85 has an RVP of something like 3 and Gasoline is closer to 9. Ethanol also has a real advantage because of its evaporative cooling properties. There are conditions were you can actually freeze an intake.

Permalink Reply by Drone637 on January 16, 2014 at 4:58pm

You would think the quality control would be a bit better though.

Permalink Reply by javier on January 16, 2014 at 4:06pm
Standard fuel here in Europe is 95 oct, and 98 oct for premium one.

Maybe the fuel problem was a poor quality on a normal fuel station during the neutral zone, just to begin the stage will the full tank (605km)

Any way good news to have RG still on the race. His a special guy going ahead with all this issues every day
Permalink Reply by Drone637 on January 16, 2014 at 4:01pm

They have a quote from Peterhansel up:

"The game is over. We've had a good laugh and enjoyed ourselves. Yesterday evening, the team asked us to not take any more risks. It's a bit frustrating because we've done most of the hard work. But, if Mini wants to have three cars on the podium, at the speed at which we are driving out in front, it's easy to crash a car or even two in just one day. We know that this can happen, but I didn't think that they would do it."

While he isn't my favorite driver it has to hurt to be 5 minutes away from a win and not being able to do anything about it.

It is also interesting to note that Nasser would be leading if not for that 1 hour penalty.

Permalink Reply by ROBERT SAVAGE on January 16, 2014 at 4:04pm

what team orders?

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